Comments on: Was Lincoln's "Team of Rivals" a myth?

By: Nicky Jameson

Nicky Jameson — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:14:09 +0000

One year on and mixed success perhaps? In hindsight, Obama’s cabinet picks seem to have largely worked – foreign policy is (arguably) on a more steady footing, the healthcare reform bill is progressing well and the economy seems to be recovering quicker than most imagined. However, whether this is due to a deliberate Lincolnesque “team of rivals” approach or good realpolitik is open for interpretation (or perhaps the 2 are the same thing!?). A very interesting article and some pertinent points made in the comments.

By: Bicycles

Bicycles — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:47:44 +0000

Cabinet making in any administration is the key to this administration success. For example Obama’s struggle right now to pass bills about health care, immigration and all of the major issues can only be resolve if he has put the right people in the right place who will work with him and enforce those soon to be laws with him.

So Cabinet making is very crucial, I am sure Lincoln was aware of that and did his best to put the right people in place in his organization.

By: beauregard

beauregard — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:25:10 +0000

The parallels with Lincoln and Obama are overblown. However of more interest to me is the degree to how dysfunctional Lincoln’s team of rivals was.
Given the divisions present in the country in the 1860s, I doubt any group of cabinet members would have been harmonious. The fact that Lincoln was able to manage them as well as he did speaks volumes about his leadership during a time of crisis. I tend to give enormous credit to Lincoln for his steady hand in guiding a boat full of fighting ship mates through a stormy sea.

By: Cabinets

Cabinets — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 23:33:33 +0000

i think Obama is following the right path, that his methods have so far proven to work, those are the same methods used by great ancient politicians to bring their enemies to their sides, many people thought that the way Obama was preaching his bipartisanship was not going to work, well it is working.

By: obriens

obriens — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:50:51 +0000

The analogies used by Obama and other politicians to compare themselves to great American presidents such as Lincoln and Washington are far to general to take seriously. The period of Lincoln’s presidency, for example, was wrought with divisiveness due to the issue of slavery and the Civil War. However, today’s issues are far less dire and analogies made to Lincoln are just and attempt to garner votes and support. Nevertheless, some people may not understand the oversimplification of these analogies, which could possibly lead to a movement of Americans accepting candidates such as Obama as the second coming of Lincoln. The analogies are farfetched and unrealistic, and they also make history seem like it is cyclical. This can be damaging to peoples understanding of history.

By: Elizabeth G

Elizabeth G — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:49:32 +0000

Although this might be a repetition of what others have said (particularly Gina), there is the saying “keep your friends close and your enemies closer.” it would be hard for your greatest critics to criticize you if they have a hand in making the policies. Additionally, By building a so-called team of rivals, Barak Obama hopefully will be bringing a sense of civility back to Washington. However, it is unclear if he is building his cabinet this way to emulate Abraham Lincoln or if he is just playing smart politics.

I do have to wonder, however, how correct the historical analogy between Lincoln and Obama is. Yes, both are from the state of Illinois, both had relatively little experience in federal government before taking office, and both are extremely gifted orators. However, it is my understanding that when Lincoln came to office he wanted to keep the Union intact, to keep the status quo. Obama ran on a platform of change.

By: Andrew H.

Andrew H. — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:23:33 +0000

In general, historical analogies tend to distort the past. David Donald, for example, clearly illustrates in his article “Getting Right With Lincoln” that politicians from all political parties have taken the words and actions of President Lincoln out of context to justify their own agendas, thus proving that no party’s ideals are truly in tune with Lincoln’s. By evoking the spirit of Lincoln so often Obama is doing nothing new, and he will most likely continue to manipulate the past to in order to justify his actions.

By: Gina

Gina — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:49:08 +0000

The idea of having a “Team of Rivals” might have seemed appropriate to Obama due to the economic crisis and ongoing war that America faces. Perhaps under these circumstances the group might prove successful now than with Lincoln due to the global perspective and ethical values that drastically changed since Lincoln’s presidency. The idea of unity and collaboration by citizen of the world is what might allow individuals, parties and political “rivals” to work together in order to create change. Although it seems uncertain, the manner in which Obama claims to runs his presidency is by change, and perhaps this might be a way in doing so.

By: gillespd

gillespd — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:25:47 +0000

As has been seen in many past presidential elections, Abraham Lincoln has often been invoked to harken back to the glory days of the ambiguous, giant of a man. While campaigning, Obama used references to Lincoln, including the idea of creating a “Team of Rivals”for his cabinet. Yet, during his Inaugural address, Obama failed to mention Lincoln, but beckoned further back to the Founding Fathers, and quoted George Washington. The use of varying historical analogies by Obama sets a high bar for himself to be one of the “great” presidents without drawing a single analogy. This, in turn, would alleviate Obama of the responsibility of living up to one man, but shifts it to an ambiguity of former greatness.

By: fitzgerald

fitzgerald — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:58:49 +0000

It is impossible to escape the analogies to Lincoln no matter who the politician happens to be. Today, as in the past, the legend of Lincoln is used to gain votes and conquer political ground by using a face that no one can effectively challenge. Debate may arise about whether or not the Lincoln analogy is appropriate, but that does not change the fact that once it has been used it almost always sticks. In the case of Obama, as with most politicians, Lincoln analogies do not have a place as the era in which Lincoln lived and the circumstances in which he was placed are completely different then today.